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The Top 10 Reasons Why the China Sell Off Will Continue
by Louis Basenese, Advisory Panelist
Wednesday, September 2, 2009: Issue #1082
How much are you willing to pay for good advice? And by “good,” I mean profitable.
A couple of hundred bucks? A couple of thousand?
Before you answer, consider this: Two weeks ago, I alerted members of The Oxford Club to the precarious position of Chinese equities. As I put it, “China could be on a crash course with a correction.”
A contrarian stance, no doubt. But vindication came quickly.
The following Monday, Chinese stocks (represented by the Shanghai Composite Index) suffered a 5.8% drop – the worst single-day decline of the year. Two days later, they got dented by another 4.3%.
Unabashed China bulls will point out that the Shanghai index promptly recovered. But then this week hit…
Rally Rebuffed: Chinese Stocks Take Another Tumble
On Monday, the Shanghai Index plunged 6.7% – the worst one-day decline since June 2008.
My point? If you’d merely trimmed up your stops on Chinese stocks, my warning could have saved you thousands of dollars (depending on how much you had invested).
Or you could have traded China short – perhaps buying puts on the most widely traded China ETF – the iShares FTSE/Xinhua China 25 ETF (NYSE: FXI) – and pocketed a quick 20%-plus gain.
So again, how much are you willing to pay for good (read: profitable) advice?
While you think about it, let me tell you why I’m convinced the China sell off could continue.
My Top 10 Reasons Why China is Still Headed For a Correction
As I shared with Oxford Club members, here are my top 10 reasons China was and is still headed for heavy selling…
#1: More Froth Than a Starbucks Cappuccino:
To say Chinese stocks were slightly overvalued is… well, an understatement.
Last fall, Chinese stocks traded at 12.9 times earnings. After just eight months, they rallied to trade at 38 times earnings. Again, a cooling period is necessary to at least give the “e” time to close the gap on the “p” in the price-to-earnings ratio.
On a price-to-book ratio basis, the story’s no different. Of the 1,739 Chinese companies trading on the Shanghai, Shenzen and Hong Kong exchanges, the average price-to-book ratio is 5.02, compared to 2.1 for the S&P 500.
#2: We Can’t Trust the Chinese Government:
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. There’s just no incentive for a communist government to be truthful. So while the official GDP forecast from Beijing hovers around 8%, I’m not buying it.
Neither is perennial pessimist, Marc Faber. He says China is only growing at 2%. A bit extreme. But Chinese citizens don’t exactly convince me to think otherwise. For example, this recent survey reveals they trust prostitutes more than politicians.
#3: Lemmings Marching in Lockstep:
A recent Bloomberg poll of investors and analysts reveals that darn near everyone (70%) is bullish on China. As Humphrey Neill put it in The Art of Contrary Thinking, “When everyone thinks alike, everyone is likely to be wrong.”
#4: Foreign Speculators:
American investors aren’t just feeling bullish… they’re acting bullish. So far this year, they’ve poured $10.6 billion into emerging market mutual funds – a whopping 34 times more than the total amount invested in U.S. funds.
The bulk of these funds are going to China either directly or indirectly, as most emerging market funds are heavily overweighted to China.
#5: Domestic Speculators:
The bullishness is spreading like wildfire within China, too. In mid July, Chinese investors opened 484,799 stock brokerage accounts in a single week! That’s the equivalent of almost two accounts for every man, woman and child in Orlando, my city of residence.
As one strategist in Shenzhen remarked, “The prospect of making quick bucks in the stock market is luring retail investors.” Why do neophytes always have to learn the hard way there’s no such thing as a “quick buck” in the stock market.
#6: “Insiders” Are Cashing Out:
The timing of IPOs is no accident. Companies try to “time” the market in order to fetch the highest price. And after strong debuts for China State Engineering Corp. and Sichuan Expressway Co., companies are lining up to hit the stock market.
Foreigners sense the opportunity, too. Billionaire Sheldon Adelson, owner of Las Vegas Sands Corp., is getting ready to sell shares of his Macau casinos so he can restart work on the $12 billion project that got mothballed in the throes of the financial crisis.
#7: Too Much Easy Credit:
The United States is the poster child for the ill effects of a country hopped up on easy credit. But China apparently believes it can handle the excess. Over the first six months of this year, Chinese banks lent out a record 7.4 trillion yuan ($1.08 trillion). Monetary tightening is inevitable – and we know how well that tends go over with the equity markets.
#8: Jim Rogers isn’t Buying the Bull Either:
This guy literally wrote the book on investing in China – A Bull In China: Investing Profitably In The World’s Greatest Market. But he hasn’t bought any Chinese stocks recently.
#9: A Ponzi Scheme That Would Make Bernie Madoff Jealous:
Wall Street analysts don’t usually buck the trend, but Morgan Stanley’s Andy Xie apparently didn’t get that memo. He claims that, “Chinese stocks and properties are 50-100% overvalued.”
He adds that the only thing pushing prices higher is the expectation of price appreciation, which in turn sucks in more liquidity. In sum, Xie says, “Chinese asset markets have become a giant Ponzi scheme.” As we learned with U.S. real estate, the appreciation stops when the liquidity dries up. That day is coming.
#10: The Writing is on the Wall Of China:
Over the past two months, we’ve witnessed multiple 4%-plus drops for the Shanghai Index. And we already know what happens when the China euphoria truly wanes. In 2008, the Shanghai index plunged by two-thirds.
This week’s sell off could signal we’re headed for another correction. And if history is a guide, it could be severe.
To sum it up in two words: Caveat emptor!
Chinese stocks got way ahead of the global recovery and are in dire need of a cooling off period before even attempting another bull charge.
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Good investing,
Louis Basenese
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In addition to being the foremast expert on small-cap stocks, Louis is also well versed in special situations including IPOs, mergers and acquisitions, spinoffs and contrarian investments. His commentary has been featured in several media outlets, including MarketWatch. And he's also a top-rated speaker at financial conferences throughout the country. 
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September 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
Dear sir,
Thank you very much to reveal the reasonable reasons for the fall of china market.
I am a trader in India .How it will be useful if I buy your recomandations.If You predict Indian market (nifty-NSE INDEX)correctly that is enough for me to trade the market.
please reply
thangam
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September 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I agreed with you for most points above, but there would be a same funny question: If we put an on-line survey to most world countries including U.S.A, are you sure these goverments would gain higher rank than the prostitutes in each country? Hehehe…
One thing I want to point out is: the current world economy markets rely and follow to each other, it’s just who’s the first behavious, how, and the depends…
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Stephen Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Dear Investment U,
Yes, I like Investment U, and it’s all over the web. But I haven’t committed yet, due to competion. You are the cheapest choice.
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Anonymous Reply:
September 10th, 2009 at 11:32 am
My advice is not cheap, here it is free.
Remember for stocks only buy cheap and sell high can make money, so “buy” my advice and it’s free here…hehehe
Be careful the kind of mind won’t help people on investment/trade unless make it wider…
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September 7th, 2009 at 10:19 am
hi i would like to know if Perfect World is still a stock to buy?????
What are the best placements? even in India i do not care.
NBest regards
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September 7th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Anyone who puts communist and China together, in my view, is an ignorant, having no idea about China’s realty. How can he be trusted to give any credible advice?
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September 10th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Everybody can see what happenned since Sept.2nd till today (Sept.10th) for China(Shanghai) market, it’s up 12% already…
It’s once again as history said: “anything could happend for stocks”!!! Anyway, business is business, what we as individual investers want? Money plus some fun…hehehe
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September 24th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
jiang
Having spent time in China and having had my Australian employer taken over by a Chinese Co I have to say I agree with him.
The Chinese are NOT to be trusted. At any level.. They are totally lacking in social graces, one of which is honesty.
regards
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Frede1998 Reply:
December 1st, 2009 at 8:29 am
nevket240, I think you are either stupid or cheating other people here. same questions as: are your Australian peopel including you honest all the time all the life? Microsoft honest to Google? Oracle honest to Sun company? hehehe
Also we should talk about trading business here, not the racialism.
plus there are old chinese words: if it’s a poison snake, people treat it by honest or kind, he is killing himself…
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January 8th, 2010 at 9:21 am
This is by far the lousiest article I have read for a long time. The author brings politics into their argumentative framework which is not a sin per se, but to say that the Chinese Communist government is not trustworth for anything is historically incorrest. I have been fed so much anit communist propaganda since my childhood (and I am 55) that now I tend to think the opposite – that the Chinese government is historially more honorable than most Western governments. The United States government broke every treaty with Amerindians and almost the entire Wall Street defrauded their investors and the West have no right to talk about honesty to be honest. The author is not incorrect in underlining the high PE and PB, but if you take into account the fact that the entire Chinese population is at least to eat as well as denizens of the developed world, if not as spectacularly clothed and driving dazzling cars, the growth is still going to be exponential. The growth in the West is going to be smaller in the next twenty years than the developing world bar financial manipulations and sabotage, which China has been able to fend off so elegantly. I also do not recall Marc Faber saying the real growth in China is going to be 2%, which is bound to be false end of next year or any year, and my respect for Marc tells me that he would not make such an outrageously irresponsible statement so I would really like to know the real source, in particular the context in which the alleged was taken out
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Investment U Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Lionel,
We will forward your comments onto Louis Basenese, by doing a quick search for “Marc Faber China 2% growth” we were able to find this link from Marc Faber’s Blog where he says, “Chinese rate of growth is probably 2 or 3% and not 8%. I would be very careful on China.”
Thank you,
Investment U
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January 18th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
I love your number 2: We can’t trust the Chinese Government. If there is any government in the world we can’t trust it is the American Government. Our pundits lie about everything from death panels to a recessionary recovery. We know that China is growing, and America is not. Even conservative Jim Cramer is recommending putting money in other countries. Lets see if the S&P drops another 26% over the next 10 years like it did from 1999 to 2009. I would trust the future of the FXI before I would the S&P.
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