Comments on: Investing in Sin Stocks: How to Oppose Radical Islam in Your Portfolio http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html Investment Advice and Investment Research with a Contrarian Point of View Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:55:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: dr.abdulvahid abdulrahiman shaikh http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-21902 dr.abdulvahid abdulrahiman shaikh Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:12:53 +0000 http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-21902 reply to post22(Ed):don't u think ur own act is against what u r telling?HYPPOCRICY!u advice all to respect others and u urself doing exactly opposite.u criticise islam and islamic countries without knowing facts.islamic countries are with least crime rates while ur nations' crime u check figures from ur own statisticians.islam teaches of humanity,even to be kind with animals.there r several verses in quran against extremism,riots and harming innocents.so extremists are not muslims as per definition of quran and hadith.so,first study islam by pure heart without prejudice and then only comment otherwise the verse of quran will fit for u-KHATAMALLAHU ALA KULUBIHIM ALA SAMHIHIM---and also SUMMUM BUKMUM UMYUN FAHUM--the dumb,the deaf and the blind who can't see the facts,who can't hear the truth and who can't understand very simple and open evidences--- reply to post22(Ed):don’t u think ur own act is against what u r telling?HYPPOCRICY!u advice all to respect others and u urself doing exactly opposite.u criticise islam and islamic countries without knowing facts.islamic countries are with least crime rates while ur nations’ crime u check figures from ur own statisticians.islam teaches of humanity,even to be kind with animals.there r several verses in quran against extremism,riots and harming innocents.so extremists are not muslims as per definition of quran and hadith.so,first study islam by pure heart without prejudice and then only comment otherwise the verse of quran will fit for u-KHATAMALLAHU ALA KULUBIHIM ALA SAMHIHIM—and also SUMMUM BUKMUM UMYUN FAHUM–the dumb,the deaf and the blind who can’t see the facts,who can’t hear the truth and who can’t understand very simple and open evidences—

]]> By: Ed (in Canada) http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-20884 Ed (in Canada) Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:41:23 +0000 http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-20884 Man, this article really pulled the extremists out of the woodwork. I agree with post 18 - if all these Islam-defenders would protest as vociferously against Islamic extremists, I could take their self-righteousnous a bit easier, and I would not regard Islam as a religion that fosters extremism and promotes hatred. Sure there are loonies in western culture, but we seem to have a lot less than are found in the Middle Eastern Arabic countries. If you hate our society so much, why do you live here? Why not integrate with our customs and norms? We don't require you to ignore your heritage, just respect others and the society you chose to be a part of. Man, this article really pulled the extremists out of the woodwork. I agree with post 18 – if all these Islam-defenders would protest as vociferously against Islamic extremists, I could take their self-righteousnous a bit easier, and I would not regard Islam as a religion that fosters extremism and promotes hatred. Sure there are loonies in western culture, but we seem to have a lot less than are found in the Middle Eastern Arabic countries. If you hate our society so much, why do you live here? Why not integrate with our customs and norms? We don’t require you to ignore your heritage, just respect others and the society you chose to be a part of.

]]> By: dr.abdulvahid abdulrahiman shaikh http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-17079 dr.abdulvahid abdulrahiman shaikh Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:30:07 +0000 http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-17079 mr.green,u give example of afganistan and taliban.why u don't mention of malaysia prospering with islamic financial system and of saudi arabia which is like heaven both socially and financially due to shariah laws and sharia based economy with least crime rate in the world.and the best way of earning is ur own business which is Sunnah of Prophet{pbuh}which gives more profit than anyother resource.so green,first get knowledge about islamic financing from ABC then only comment otherwise u will be subject of hatret and disgrace for which u should blame urself alone. mr.green,u give example of afganistan and taliban.why u don’t mention of malaysia prospering with islamic financial system and of saudi arabia which is like heaven both socially and financially due to shariah laws and sharia based economy with least crime rate in the world.and the best way of earning is ur own business which is Sunnah of Prophet{pbuh}which gives more profit than anyother resource.so green,first get knowledge about islamic financing from ABC then only comment otherwise u will be subject of hatret and disgrace for which u should blame urself alone.

]]> By: dr.abdulvahidshaikh http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-16887 dr.abdulvahidshaikh Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:52:17 +0000 http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-16887 if one makes million dollars by looting or killing Mr.Green and get benefited,will mr.green happily allow him to do so?surely not.so green,don't be hyppocrite.wo to that money which is earned by destroying lives and families.Islam cares social values more than individual interest hence there is compulsion of JAKAAH and SADKAKHAIRAT in Islam.islam teaches Don't eat fullstomach when ur neighbour is hungry and neighbourhood means 40 houses on ur right,left,front and back.mr.green,u also will die one day like all others so prepare to face Allah with bright face and not with criminal and dark face. if one makes million dollars by looting or killing Mr.Green and get benefited,will mr.green happily allow him to do so?surely not.so green,don’t be hyppocrite.wo to that money which is earned by destroying lives and families.Islam cares social values more than individual interest hence there is compulsion of JAKAAH and SADKAKHAIRAT in Islam.islam teaches Don’t eat fullstomach when ur neighbour is hungry and neighbourhood means 40 houses on ur right,left,front and back.mr.green,u also will die one day like all others so prepare to face Allah with bright face and not with criminal and dark face.

]]> By: JIM BOY http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-15878 JIM BOY Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:20:14 +0000 http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-15878 A really racist, unprofessional and inexcusable title to your article. You could have received the same readership with the Sin Stocks title. A really racist, unprofessional and inexcusable title to your article. You could have received the same readership with the Sin Stocks title.

]]> By: Rich K http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-15873 Rich K Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:44:46 +0000 http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-15873 If I hear one more dope defend Islam in these comments, I'm going to puke. Why don't you spend the same amount of energy denouncing the idiots who give Islam a bad name??? Why don't YOU join in the fight against these idiots??? All your talk distancing yourselves from the Taliban and extremist Islamicists is purely ~empty~ and ~useless~ rhetoric. Put your freakin' money where your mouth is -- exact some justice within your own religion on these nutjob extremists. Until you're willing to agree to have these crazies killed/captured, your words will continue to fall on deaf ears. If I were you, I would not stand too close to any of them -- you might become collateral damage. If I hear one more dope defend Islam in these comments, I’m going to puke. Why don’t you spend the same amount of energy denouncing the idiots who give Islam a bad name??? Why don’t YOU join in the fight against these idiots??? All your talk distancing yourselves from the Taliban and extremist Islamicists is purely ~empty~ and ~useless~ rhetoric. Put your freakin’ money where your mouth is — exact some justice within your own religion on these nutjob extremists. Until you’re willing to agree to have these crazies killed/captured, your words will continue to fall on deaf ears. If I were you, I would not stand too close to any of them — you might become collateral damage.

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]]> By: Baby Bob http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-15536 Baby Bob Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:34:21 +0000 http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-15536 Good day, Mr Alex Green I believe you are heavily mistaken about the viability of Islamic-based investments. Do you know that it is precisely the nature of conventional financing that brings the downfall of many once reputable financial institutions to their knees? Just to name a few like the Lehmann Brothers, American International Group etc. Had it not been for the national government’s rescue, many of other such institutions will fold, thus bringing about catastrophic consequences to the nation’s fortunes, in addition to that of other countries. It is the malady of the dark side of the human emotions which bring forth his own downfall. Traits like greed, overconfidence have enabled them to conjure complex financial instruments that previously do not exist. As what the renowned investment guru, Warren Buffet once quipped ‘derivatives are the financial weapons of mass destruction’. Issues like overleveraging and investing in toxic assets arise from such negative traits. For example it has been revealed that many conventional US banks are heavily exposed to derivatives and are highly geared; Citibank’s exposure is 278 times its capital, JP Morgan Chase is 382 times, Goldman Sachs is 1056 times! Such a situation is like a bomb waiting to explode. So in the end who will suffer if such a scenario pans out? It is the investors followed by the citizens. For the Lehmann Brothers debacle, we have seen so many investors globally whose fortunes have been wiped out by such inconsiderate greed and reckless decisions made by these financiers. So my point of contention is; what’s the point of earning phenomenal rates of return when the end returns are subjected to high risk of default. In contrast, the Islamic financing model is not based on such negative principles. How else can we explain then that thus far, none of the Islamic financial institutions have declared insolvency? No doubt that their capital reserves have reduced considerably due to the global economic crisis, but it has not come to the point where they have to literally knock on the government’s coffers. Hence to shorten my point, I wish to ask; between these 2 options, which will most investors prefer: (1) Earn subpar returns and be virtually guaranteed that his investments stay afloat or (2) Earn phenomenal returns but to eventually fold up over the long term? Please consider. Thank you... Good day, Mr Alex Green

I believe you are heavily mistaken about the viability of Islamic-based investments.

Do you know that it is precisely the nature of conventional financing that brings the downfall of many once reputable financial institutions to their knees? Just to name a few like the Lehmann Brothers, American International Group etc. Had it not been for the national government’s rescue, many of other such institutions will fold, thus bringing about catastrophic consequences to the nation’s fortunes, in addition to that of other countries.

It is the malady of the dark side of the human emotions which bring forth his own downfall. Traits like greed, overconfidence have enabled them to conjure complex financial instruments that previously do not exist. As what the renowned investment guru, Warren Buffet once quipped ‘derivatives are the financial weapons of mass destruction’. Issues like overleveraging and investing in toxic assets arise from such negative traits. For example it has been revealed that many conventional US banks are heavily exposed to derivatives and are highly geared; Citibank’s exposure is 278 times its capital, JP Morgan Chase is 382 times, Goldman Sachs is 1056 times! Such a situation is like a bomb waiting to explode. So in the end who will suffer if such a scenario pans out? It is the investors followed by the citizens. For the Lehmann Brothers debacle, we have seen so many investors globally whose fortunes have been wiped out by such inconsiderate greed and reckless decisions made by these financiers. So my point of contention is; what’s the point of earning phenomenal rates of return when the end returns are subjected to high risk of default.

In contrast, the Islamic financing model is not based on such negative principles. How else can we explain then that thus far, none of the Islamic financial institutions have declared insolvency? No doubt that their capital reserves have reduced considerably due to the global economic crisis, but it has not come to the point where they have to literally knock on the government’s coffers.

Hence to shorten my point, I wish to ask; between these 2 options, which will most investors prefer:
(1) Earn subpar returns and be virtually guaranteed that his investments stay afloat or
(2) Earn phenomenal returns but to eventually fold up over the long term?
Please consider. Thank you…

]]> By: Han http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-15502 Han Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:57:19 +0000 http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/investing-in-sin-stocks.html#comment-15502 I am not rich, but I am happy. We live twice and died once. Once we are dead from this world, our deeds will be decided by the AlMighthy either we go to hell or heaven. Only Muslims know what is good and why we are in the world. For me in my investment, is to gain and blessed, thus no sin investment but only syariah-approved funds or stocks. I am not rich, but I am happy.
We live twice and died once.
Once we are dead from this world, our deeds will be decided by the AlMighthy either we go to hell or heaven.

Only Muslims know what is good and why we are in the world. For me in my investment, is to gain and blessed, thus no sin investment but only syariah-approved funds or stocks.

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