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	<title>Comments on: Is General Motors the Buy of the Decade? PHEVs Part Two&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: bo</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-15935</link>
		<dc:creator>bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM will not survive until its get out front with its product engineering.  This money, just spent , is a political window dressing...  DO THE DAMNED ENGINEERING TO GET COMPETITIVE !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM will not survive until its get out front with its product engineering.  This money, just spent , is a political window dressing&#8230;  DO THE DAMNED ENGINEERING TO GET COMPETITIVE !!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Gunnlaugsson</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-14026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas Gunnlaugsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no problem with the tecnology. jg

http://www.mpgomatic.com/2008/11/09/electric-ford-f-150/
The 4WD PML Flightlink F-150 has a range of approximately 100 miles

http://www.sdearthtimes.com:80/et0101/et0101s14.html
reports that aluminum-air fuel cells can extend the range of an electric van from 75 km using lead-acid batteries to 300 km. They note that the fuel cells are over seven times more energy dense by weight and occupy less than one-seventh of the space of commercial lead-acid batteries. 
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compared to lithium-ion and nickel cadmium batteries, the aluminum-air battery provides an estimated 75 times more energy density plus greater output over a longer battery lifetime.&quot; To date, the Aluminum-Power battery has achieved 800Wh/kg [watt-hours per kilogram] with peak currents of 7 amps recorded. Aluminum-Power scientists believe that 4,000/Wh/kg is theoretically possible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no problem with the tecnology. jg</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mpgomatic.com/2008/11/09/electric-ford-f-150/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mpgomatic.com/2008/11/09/electric-ford-f-150/</a><br />
The 4WD PML Flightlink F-150 has a range of approximately 100 miles</p>
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reports that aluminum-air fuel cells can extend the range of an electric van from 75 km using lead-acid batteries to 300 km. They note that the fuel cells are over seven times more energy dense by weight and occupy less than one-seventh of the space of commercial lead-acid batteries.<br />
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<p>compared to lithium-ion and nickel cadmium batteries, the aluminum-air battery provides an estimated 75 times more energy density plus greater output over a longer battery lifetime.&#8221; To date, the Aluminum-Power battery has achieved 800Wh/kg [watt-hours per kilogram] with peak currents of 7 amps recorded. Aluminum-Power scientists believe that 4,000/Wh/kg is theoretically possible</p>
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		<title>By: Solar Power</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-12109</link>
		<dc:creator>Solar Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is General Motors the Buy of the Decade? PHEVs Part Two [...]</description>
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		<title>By: joe magee</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-6785</link>
		<dc:creator>joe magee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember this...we&#039;ve refined the IC engine now for over 100 years. We&#039;re not going to come up with a technology that&#039;s going to replace all the conveniences of the IC engine overnight. From what I&#039;ve read in the 40+ responses it looks like a lot of people have forgotten that. I like the concept behind the chevy volt as it is a hybrid that significantly reduces oil/gas consumption, without sacrificing all the benefits of the IC engine. It sounds like a great move in the right direction to me. Remember the main goal....TOTAL 100% INDEPENDENCE FROM FOREIGN OIL. We can&#039;t have our economy dependent on foreign oil, period. There&#039;s too much at stake. Our foreign policy should not and cannot be influenced by foreign oil! It&#039;s time for the US automakers to realize this is their time to reclaim the American auto market and in doing so reclaim America as the true leader of the world as we once were and can be again. I&#039;m rooting for you Ford, GM, and Chrysler! You&#039;ve been the heart and soul of the American economy for 100 years, give or take a few. Now is the time for all good automakers to come to the aid of their country! DETROIT MICHIGAN, WE NEED YOU NOW!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember this&#8230;we&#8217;ve refined the IC engine now for over 100 years. We&#8217;re not going to come up with a technology that&#8217;s going to replace all the conveniences of the IC engine overnight. From what I&#8217;ve read in the 40+ responses it looks like a lot of people have forgotten that. I like the concept behind the chevy volt as it is a hybrid that significantly reduces oil/gas consumption, without sacrificing all the benefits of the IC engine. It sounds like a great move in the right direction to me. Remember the main goal&#8230;.TOTAL 100% INDEPENDENCE FROM FOREIGN OIL. We can&#8217;t have our economy dependent on foreign oil, period. There&#8217;s too much at stake. Our foreign policy should not and cannot be influenced by foreign oil! It&#8217;s time for the US automakers to realize this is their time to reclaim the American auto market and in doing so reclaim America as the true leader of the world as we once were and can be again. I&#8217;m rooting for you Ford, GM, and Chrysler! You&#8217;ve been the heart and soul of the American economy for 100 years, give or take a few. Now is the time for all good automakers to come to the aid of their country! DETROIT MICHIGAN, WE NEED YOU NOW!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Automakers &#38; PHEVs</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-6182</link>
		<dc:creator>Automakers &#38; PHEVs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of more interest to us, EnerSys is working with a number of niche players to develop a lithium-ion line of batteries specifically targeted to the PHEV transportation market. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: UHOOTHEGOSSIP</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-4969</link>
		<dc:creator>UHOOTHEGOSSIP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hope they succeed but I would not bet on it.  The cost of batterys and GM&#039;s poor reputation for quality and follow through will probably wipe out the funds before they can prove their excellence.  I would bet on Honda&#039;s engineering and execution skills!  Best to run them through bankrupcy and hope they survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hope they succeed but I would not bet on it.  The cost of batterys and GM&#8217;s poor reputation for quality and follow through will probably wipe out the funds before they can prove their excellence.  I would bet on Honda&#8217;s engineering and execution skills!  Best to run them through bankrupcy and hope they survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Automakers &#38; PHEVs: Between “Barack” and a Hard Place &#124; Jutia Group</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-4002</link>
		<dc:creator>Automakers &#38; PHEVs: Between “Barack” and a Hard Place &#124; Jutia Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of more interest to us, EnerSys is working with a number of niche players to develop a lithium-ion line of batteries specifically targeted to the PHEV transportation market. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Of more interest to us, EnerSys is working with a number of niche players to develop a lithium-ion line of batteries specifically targeted to the PHEV transportation market. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: General motors - Foros de debate de Expansi</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-2496</link>
		<dc:creator>General motors - Foros de debate de Expansi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (GM), Buy of the Decade? - Contrarian Stock Market Investing News - Featuring Bargain Stocks y  Is General Motors the Buy of the Decade? PHEVs Part Two...   A GM acabar</description>
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		<title>By: motor bob</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-2472</link>
		<dc:creator>motor bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It absolutely amazes me how everyone misses the only real system that works! DEISEL/ELECTRIC. VW has one that has plugin capability and 113 M.P.G.!!!available in 2012. check it out at tdiclub.com. german cars are definitely NOT junk.I also wonder how battery powered cars are going to be heated or cooled, and where does everyone think that electricity comes from?? the internal combustion engine is definitely NOT DEAD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It absolutely amazes me how everyone misses the only real system that works! DEISEL/ELECTRIC. VW has one that has plugin capability and 113 M.P.G.!!!available in 2012. check it out at tdiclub.com. german cars are definitely NOT junk.I also wonder how battery powered cars are going to be heated or cooled, and where does everyone think that electricity comes from?? the internal combustion engine is definitely NOT DEAD</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/February/general-motors.html/comment-page-2#comment-2461</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the ability of our power grid to handle electric vehicles: blackouts and brownouts are not due to insufficient overall capacity.  They are due to insufficient *peak* capacity.  Peak load on the grid occurs during the middle of the workday, which is when most people have their cars sitting in a parking lot at work.  Electric vehicles would be charging overnight, which is when there is far more capacity available.

On the &#039;death&#039; of the ICE: agreed with other posters that it won&#039;t go away completely.  However, bear in mind that the *vast* majority of drivers drive their cars less than 60 miles a day in the US.  The Volt&#039;s 40 is a bit skimpy, but assuming that 60 miles is well within reach, that would be the deciding factor for a lot of people (along with the ultimate cost of the vehicle, obviously).  Note that this also makes the case stronger for investing in solar panels for one&#039;s home - there are a lot of novel ways to finance them now compared to even five years ago, and the total cost has dropped quite a bit as well.

On the quality of foreign cars: gregt&#039;s expert opinion on &#039;Jap Junkboxes&#039; not withstanding, I beg to differ.  I have only owned Hondas my whole life, I have driven them well north of 250k miles with the only problem being a blown radiator, and my maintenance costs are basically nothing.  If that&#039;s junk, then I guess I love junk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the ability of our power grid to handle electric vehicles: blackouts and brownouts are not due to insufficient overall capacity.  They are due to insufficient *peak* capacity.  Peak load on the grid occurs during the middle of the workday, which is when most people have their cars sitting in a parking lot at work.  Electric vehicles would be charging overnight, which is when there is far more capacity available.</p>
<p>On the &#8216;death&#8217; of the ICE: agreed with other posters that it won&#8217;t go away completely.  However, bear in mind that the *vast* majority of drivers drive their cars less than 60 miles a day in the US.  The Volt&#8217;s 40 is a bit skimpy, but assuming that 60 miles is well within reach, that would be the deciding factor for a lot of people (along with the ultimate cost of the vehicle, obviously).  Note that this also makes the case stronger for investing in solar panels for one&#8217;s home &#8211; there are a lot of novel ways to finance them now compared to even five years ago, and the total cost has dropped quite a bit as well.</p>
<p>On the quality of foreign cars: gregt&#8217;s expert opinion on &#8216;Jap Junkboxes&#8217; not withstanding, I beg to differ.  I have only owned Hondas my whole life, I have driven them well north of 250k miles with the only problem being a blown radiator, and my maintenance costs are basically nothing.  If that&#8217;s junk, then I guess I love junk.</p>
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